Nnamdi Kanu, Ndigbo and Nigeria

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The Verdict By Olusegun Adeniyi, Email: olusegun.adeniyi@thisdaylive.com

The young Yoruba man was leaving office early to go and receive his visiting Igbo wife undergoing her National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) primary assignment in a neighbouring town when he encountered a co-worker who planted in him the seed of doubts that eventually destroyed a beautiful union and set his own life crashing down. The careless remark that would play in his head again and again was that he was being naive to believe that his wife would remain faithful, especially considering that “she is young, she is a corper…and she is Igbo!”

The predilection to stereotype and label people by blaming the conduct of one person on an entire group he or she belongs (age, class, religion or ethnicity) is for me the central message in Tunde Kelani’s movie, ‘Magun’ (Thunderbolt). It speaks to a time like this in our nation when some Yoruba and Igbo irredentists are promoting hate speech in the name of a meaningless superiority war that glorifies some distorted accounts of the past.

The cast of the movie, written by Professor Akinwunmi Isola, included seasoned professionals like Adebayo Faleti, Bukky Ajayi, Uche Obi-Osotule, Lanre Balogun, Wale Macauley, Ngozi Nwosu and the Dr. Larinde Akinleye. The story is woven around Ngozi, (played by Uche, one of Nigeria’s most adored actresses who for some inexplicable reasons, doesn’t feature much in Nollywood) and Yinka (played by Lanre Balogun). The duo met and fell in love at the NYSC orientation camp.

With the insinuation that an Igbo woman could not be trusted and feeling rather insecure and jealous—notwithstanding the fact that he actually met his wife a virgin—Yinka eventually sought the diabolical power of ‘Magun’, the mysterious chastity control which instantly terminates the life of any man who dares to ‘climb’ a straying wife. The snag though is that if the woman played no ‘away game’ within a specified period while still being laced with ‘Magun’, she stood the risk of death. Being a faithful wife, it was Ngozi’s life that was in danger in the movie.

‘Magun’ is fatal and remedies are rare and often not foolproof. So the efforts to break its life-threatening effect on Ngozi provided the entertainment and the drama of existence captured in the movie. But in the final analysis, Ngozi’s redemption came from the family of her irresponsible Yoruba husband, the Yoruba native doctors, her local Yoruba guardian and finally the love-struck Yoruba medical doctor who offered himself as a guinea pig to test the efficacy of ‘Magun’ on the altar of a five-minute enjoyment. He was lucky to survive with an experience he would never forget!

When her tribulation was over and she was confronted with the prospect of another Yorubaman as suitor, Ngozi, quite naturally, was hesitant but her father, who started out as a Yoruba antagonist, saved the day by advising her to follow her heart. He said it would be wrong to blame a whole ethnic group for the misconduct of one man, before giving us that memorable line: “A man is a man; and a race is a race”.

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I wrote the foregoing on this page on 22 August 2013 in my piece “Yoruba, Igbo and Media Warriors” at the height of the Igbo-Yoruba verbal confrontation following the unfortunate ‘deportation’ to Anambra State of some Nigerian citizens by the Lagos State government at the time. The “Igbo this, Yoruba that” argument that dominated the period, I argued in my piece, “is unhelpful and detracts from what should be the focus of our attention. I believe it will serve us well if we return to what the real issue is, or at least should be: Whether they are Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba and regardless of their ‘state of origin’, no Nigerian should be discriminated against in any part of the country on account of his or her social status. It is time we put an end to the on-going nonsensical debate between some Igbo and Yoruba commentators and face the real issues of poverty, development and national unity.”

Eventually, sanity prevailed but the madness resurfaced after the 2015 presidential election. With the defeat of President Goodluck Jonathan who was heavily backed by South-east voters and the public declaration by President Muhammadu Buhari that the distribution of opportunities would be according to the number of votes he got in each region, there was always going to be trouble. Then came Nnamdi Kanu who, as I said on Monday, was “egged on by the mob, comprising mostly okada riders with online support from several of his kinsmen in the Diaspora” and was “allowed to take hate speech to an unprecedented level, even by the standards of our country”.

Before I go further, let me commend the Senior Pastor of the Covenant Christian Centre, Pastor Poju Oyemade for his vision in bringing critical stakeholders together every year on the anniversary of our independence so that we can share our fears and aspirations while provoking national engagements for the peace and progress of our country. Every year, people look forward to ‘The Platform’ where I was privileged to speak for a record sixth time on Monday. Meanwhile, some sympathisers of the so-called Indigenous Peoples of Biafra (IPOB), who were evidently not happy with my presentation, have asked me to explain what I meant by saying Kanu is spreading hate speech.

Hate speech, as I understand it, is any verbal or written statements deliberately meant to offend, insult, intimidate or threaten a person or group of individuals based on ethnicity, race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc. In case that sounds a bit vague let me try to be more direct. Basically, if I say ‘I hate this Yoruba man because he is a thief’ that does not qualify as hate speech but if I say ‘because this Yoruba man is a thief all Yoruba people are thieves’, then I am on a slippery slope. That is the kind of things Kanu has been saying about non-Igbo Nigerians. For instance, when Kanu says “anybody attending a Pentecostal church with a Yoruba pastor is an idiot, a complete fool and an imbecile” before adding, “if your pastor is Yoruba, you are not fit to be a human being” or “Pastor Kumuyi should be stoned and dealt with thoroughly if he comes to Aba for his planned crusade”, am I expected to clap for him?

Whatever may be the disposition of anybody to this government, it was bad politics to have allowed Kanu to run riot the way he did, saying unprintable things about several people, including the president. So, when some grandfathers under the aegis of Arewa Youth issued an ultimatum for Igbo people in the North to quit the region, it was obvious that they were responding to the fact that Kanu was allowed to abuse, malign and threaten other Nigerians without anybody in the South-east restraining him.

Therefore, it was on the basis of the foregoing that when on Tuesday I got a rather instructive mail from a regular reader of this page who lives and works in Canada, I decided to raise a critical point about Kanu and the Ndigbo question to which he also responded. With his permission, I want to reproduce our exchanges:

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Dear Segun,
I read with dismay President Buhari’s independence message where he premised the recent calls for secession to be based on calls for restructuring. Unfortunately, Nigeria is missing another opportunity to truly evolve into a nation by refusing to answer the Biafra question sincerely; not by brute force but by serious engagement, with a genuine intention to repair and reconcile.

To be clear, I am not in favour of Nnamdi Kanu’s method or message but any objective observer cannot deny identifying with his sentiments on the place of the Igbo in Nigeria. For perspective, the US after their bloody civil war engaged in deliberate healing which included accurate history of events regardless of who would be portrayed as the villains and heroes especially since the events leading to the civil war pertained to slavery. Regardless of their intentional efforts, the flashpoints of the civil war still remain as we have seen recently with the controversies surrounding the confederate monuments that defined that era. We are talking about resurrecting an event that occurred over 150 years ago!

Last month, Justin Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister, stood before the UN general assembly, not to advertise Canada to the world or promote her contribution to international fights against terrorism or humanitarian crisis but rather to apologize for the ill-treatment meted out to the indigenous people when the Europeans first arrived Canada. Trudeau apologized for an event that occurred over 150 years ago because the hurt is still being felt among the indigenous population and has always haunted the country since. Germany only healed from the World War II because of deliberate efforts at reconciliation and reconstruction but even at that, we are seeing a gradual resurgence of such sentiments from the results of the last parliamentary elections. The agitation of the Scottish people from the larger UK is rooted in hundreds of years of acrimony between both peoples.

Therefore, the premise that the hurt from the Nigerian civil war will dissipate with time is simply childish and whoever subscribes to that idea has failed to learn from history – our own history and the history from elsewhere. The civil war is only 50 years old and we somehow expect the emotions from it to be overtaken by events without any deliberate efforts to address both the factors that led to the war and the fall-outs thereof. And it is most expedient for Nigeria to confront this monster because there seems to be no unbiased documentation of that dark history.

Unfortunately, the history will still be passed on from generation to generation with the added consequence that such oral transmission will be mixed with emotions on both sides thereby deepening the hurt. Little wonder, unarmed IPOB members, most of who did not witness the war will stand and confront armed military men during the last Operation Python Dance. That many Igbos have moved on to establish businesses and residences across the country does not negate the emotional hurt they still carry.

While it seems more convenient and lazy to ignore this past and pretend it did not happen, the consequences will be greater for future generations to handle. The blanket statements and ideological underpinning of non-negotiable Nigeria may ultimately result to her implosion. Therefore, it is incumbent on Nigeria to summon the courage to sincerely heal this hurt and build a nation from there. Incidentally, genuine truth and reconciliation does not necessarily equate to secession or even confederation as the authorities seem to equate; that is just shallow reasoning. When genuine efforts are made, it will be surprising that what is needed to bind Nigeria together may be very simple after all.

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Dear Bright, thanks for your mail. In as much as I do not want to discuss President Buhari because I hold him partly responsible for this problem by not rallying the nation together after he was elected, I must also point out that I am worried about the damage Nnamdi Kanu has done to the Igbo cause within a multi-ethnic Nigeria and the fact that many Igbo people do not see it. If you notice, you will realise that the Igbos are practically carrying their cross alone at this period without much sympathy from the rest of Nigeria, save for a few opposition politicians in the South-west and South-south who are using him (Kanu) as a proxy to fight President Buhari. Talk about an enemy’s enemy being a friend!

You wonder why?

The answer is simple: Many people have the tapes of what Kanu has said about other ethnic groups so you can easily situate their resentment against him and those they consider his enablers. For instance, I have watched several of Kanu’s videos because I know those who have the collections and I cringe at the kind of bitterness and hate spewing from the mouth of the young man. He abuses, maligns, curses and threatens Yoruba and Hausa people as well as their leaders. And when I see Igbo people following and hailing such a person, how do you think I would feel?

Even if Kanu hates Yoruba and other ethnic groups, he ought to understand that he cannot fight everybody at once. But in his folly, that is what he tried to do. And with that, especially when he was being hailed by those who should call him to order, he brought resentment against his kinsmen from other Nigerians who feel injured by his violent outbursts and hate rhetoric. And that is why many people, including those sympathetic to the Igbo cause, also do not want to hear any talk about Biafra or IPOB, especially if what it means is to demonise them and their leaders.

Believe me, I speak to a lot of people across a broad spectrum of the Nigerian society, including those who may appear quiet, so I know what I am saying. Kanu is damaging, not promoting, the Igbo cause, regardless of the anger that may make some people to think otherwise, and I say that with every sense of responsibility.

I have always fought the Igbo cause not only because, for some inexplicable reasons, some of my closest friends as well as mentors (professional and spiritual) happen to be Igbo, but also because I can see the injustice, especially in the distribution of opportunities by this administration. But when I see respected Igbo people venerating Nnamdi Kanu not only do I get offended, I take it as an endorsement of his hatred against other Nigerians, including Yoruba people of which I am one.

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Dear Segun,
Thanks for the reply and for your perspective. You are right about how Nnamdi Kanu’s comments have affected the mood of other ethnic groups and based on his actions and utterances, we may be tempted to ‘leave him to his fate’. However, I have since adopted Michelle Obama’s catchphrase, “when they go low, we go high”. I think Nigeria should rise above Nnamdi Kanu’s irresponsibility and provide leadership for the future of her country. Besides, Nnamdi Kanu only tapped into a hidden sentiment that has not healed.

Before him, there was Ralph Uwazurike and his MASSOB movement and government’s intimidation and arrests of his members didn’t erase the sentiments. Nnamdi Kanu came with a different approach, a disgusting approach I must confess, but an approach nonetheless and tapped into that sentiment. We may spend a lot of time trying to analyze all the factors that led to his successful mobilization of such a huge following but that is a topic for another day. In a nutshell, I think his success at mobilizing supporters is a consequence of government’s immediate and progressive failure over the years in properly educating her citizens beyond paper qualifications and ability to read and write. Similar argument can be made on why USA elected Donald Trump and why Zimbabwe is comfortable with Robert Mugabe despite a so called 97% literacy level.

My fear is that after Nnamdi Kanu, someone else will rise. It is not a matter of ‘if’ but ‘when’. When such person arises, s/he will tap into the hidden sentiments again and mobilize supporters. Therein lies the problem. We have seen how advances in technology helped fuel the crumbling of the dictatorships in Algeria, Egypt and Libya. We have also recently seen the sonic attacks in Cuba. We do not know which direction technology is going years from now and it is scary to imagine that a future Kanu might have access to technology that can cause serious damage to Nigeria should s/he go that route.

The direction of spending of the US military indicates there is a gradual shift away from brick and mortar type of warfare. In that regard, Nigeria is not future-proofing herself by addressing the most uncomfortable but necessary questions now, but is rather delaying the seeds of discord to a future date. That is my worry and that is why standing aloof and watch Kanu implode is not very helpful to Nigeria’s future. This is compounded by the fact that we seem not to care about objective and accurate accounts of events, which is was why I was happy you documented the 2015 presidential election into a book.

I remember raising this same concern with you when President Buhari’s biography was published and the half-truths therein. Lack of accurate account of event promotes room for distortion with an emotional slant. That I believe is what gave IPOB supporters the conviction to stand up to armed military and the Arewa Youths the conviction to issue quit notice. These are people who most likely did not witness the civil war but can recount it based on the emotions that came along with what they were told. The history of the civil war is still being passed on but from an emotional stand point on both sides and that is driving the wedge even further. By delaying a sincere and genuine truth and reconciliation, Nigeria may inadvertently be preparing for her demise.

NOTE: This conversation shall continue.

 

Platform: Where You Got it Wrong

By Musa Yahaya Dawha

Dear Segun,
Your presentation at this year’s edition of ‘The Platform’ was, http://wp.me/p7LdSh-z0R, as usual, engaging and very insightful. However, I think you misunderstood the point raised by the Health Minister, Professor Isaac Adewole, regarding the disparity in the number of doctors working at the Federal Medical centre, Zamfara compared to those in the employment of the state government. Unfortunately, you cited it as an example of some of the maladies of Nigerian state and I believe you misled your audience. Please permit me to elaborate.

120 medical doctors working in the ONLY tertiary hospital serving a population of about three million people is grossly INADEQUATE. A modest number should be 300. I should know because I work in the Federal Teaching Hospital, Gombe. Until the last two years or so, it was also a medical centre like that of Zamfara. For any given population in the underdeveloped world, 5% will have a health challenge at any point in time thus needing a physician’s attention and about 10% of that number will require specialist care. That comes to about 15,000 people in Zamfara needing specialist care at any point in time. Now, how is it humanly possible for these 120 doctors to provide such care? And remember, these 120 are not all specialists.

Just in case you do not know, the mandate of tertiary hospitals is to provide healthcare, train new medical personnel and engage in research. So a typical unit in the Federal Medical Centre you mentioned OUGHT to have at least two consultants, a few residents, perhaps six to 10 at various levels of specialist training, and about three house officers undergoing internship. That gives you a minimum of nine doctors in a unit. This is the minimum number and I am dead sure it is not being met.

Meanwhile, Tertiary hospitals are made up of five major departments and each, give or take, will comprise of several sub specialties and may have several units. For example, in Surgery, there must be: Orthopaedics, General Surgery, Plastic Surgery, Paediatric Surgery, ENT, Ophthalmology and others while in Medicine, you have Neurology, Respiratory, Gastroenterology, Cardiology, Endocrinology, Dermatology, Nephrology and many more.

Now, you must understand that these are just two departments. Therefore, if we assume that each of these sub specialities has two units (they usually have more) with the minimum number of nine, it means that these units will require 81 doctors. You can see that the 120 doctors are not enough since I have not elaborated on the other three (Obsterics and Gynaecology, Paediatrics and Laboratory Medicine) that a single tertiary hospital catering for a population as large as Zamfara State ought to have.

I do not want to believe you were quoting Professor Adewole when you said these doctors were idle. Having spent much of his professional life practising in a tertiary hospital, I find it hard to believe he would say that since he knows the set-up of such hospitals. That must be your assumption, given your limited knowledge of the field of medicine. What the minister was drawing the attention of the state government to was the fact that they needed to employ more doctors. Why would the Federal Government with a single hospital in the state employ 120 doctors while the state government, with 24 hospitals, have only 23 doctors? That I believe was his point.

A situation where 23 doctors were manning 24 general hospitals should indeed worry all of us. Only God can save the patients accessing healthcare in such hospitals. It will be a harvest of unnecessary deaths and complications that are all avoidable. Segun, how can a single doctor man a general hospital day and night, 24/7, 365 days of the year? Such a doctor, who is not a magician, will definitely not save many lives and may in fact take some, through negligence that comes with overwork.

As I said, your presentation at Platform was spot on except for the inference to the number of federal medical doctors in Zamfara. I believe it is an entirely different issue if you want to raise the impropriety or otherwise of the Federal Government running such hospitals in the larger debate about the need to reorganize this country. But the fact is, as things stand today, the 120 doctors running that health institution compared to the 24 of the state government has nothing to do with the larger wallet of the Federal Government. Well, at least not in the sense you alluded to it. Like I pointed out earlier, that number is insufficient.

The disparity in the number of doctors working in Federal health institutions and those in the State Governments is what obtains in a significant majority of states in Nigeria but it is particularly worse in the north. The State Governments have all abdicated their responsibility in providing health care to the centre, and as we all know, the tertiary hospitals have become overburdened and cannot cope (like Zamfara even with their 120 federal doctors).

The pertinent question here is: Why is this so? It is so because these Governors simply do not care and would rather appoint hundreds of special advisers and assistants and pay them salaries and allowances in the hundreds of thousands for doing practically nothing. A fraction of what they pay these so called advisers and assistants is more than enough to pay the salaries of enough doctors to man their hospitals. Let me also draw your attention to the fact that even if the Zamfara State government has 300 doctors in its employment, the 120 in the tertiary hospital will still be insufficient. Remember, the health institutions in the state are secondary health institutions and are not equipped to do the task of tertiary hospitals.

Have you or anyone you know ever sought for an appointment to see a specialist in a tertiary hospital in Nigeria? If yes, I do not need to tell you how long you probably have to wait if you follow due process, without anyone pushing you up the appointment list of course. This delay is occasioned primarily (I admit there is the typical “Nigerian attitude” contributing) by insufficient numbers of doctors in the health institutions. Therefore, the malaise afflicting our health sector, like every other sector in this country, are very challenging indeed.

Dr. Dawha is a Chief consultant gynaecologist at the Federal Teaching Hospital, Gombe.

  • KWOY

    AND AS YOU KNOW LIAR, IT IS ALWAYS THE YORUBA MAN & HIS IGBO WIFE….

    DIRTY PEOPLE, STOP PESTERING OUR PEOPLE!

    OUTSIDE THE POVERTY YOU HAVE SUBJECTED US FROM MARGINALIZATION OUR PROUD PEOPLE WOULDN’T BE DESCENDING LOW TO ACCEPT YOU DIRTY PIGS IN THE FIRST PLACE! STAY CLEAR OF OUR PEOPLE!

  • Intrepid

    Most Okada Riders can feed themselves and families much better than most Professors.

    The black man’s stup1d mentally remains infinite.

  • KWOY

    LIAR! All these reactions & developments should be a clear sign to you that there will be change which you will not be able to prevent; abt which you will be able to do nothing! TIMES WILL TEACH YOU!

  • Jon West

    I always find Nigeria’s obsession with the Igbo rather amusing, but quite instructive. Nobody seemed to care about the devastation wrought on the Nigerian populace by Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen, real killers and bloodthirsty too, and also all from a particular ethnic stock. However, Kanu angry rants against non-Igbos (and Igbo politician and elders, Yes!!) appears to hurt Nigerians more than the deathsan devastation visited on non-Hausa/Fulani moslems an christians by the real terrorists.

    Kanu tapped into a rich vein of discontent among all strata of Igbo soceity an in a referendum, a majority of the Igbo will vote to leave Nigeria, because they have had enough of the ethnic hate, ignorance, backwardness an sheer inability of the country Calle Nigeria, to move into the global evelopemntal community.

    The Igbo have always carried their cross alone in Nigeria, even before Independence in 1960. I have always advocated that they should be polite in their interactions with other Nigerians, but should not try too hard to please, because it wont make any dinference; the ethnic hatre is palpable an it is anchore on group envy an sheer pettiness. Like in 1930s Germany, the Jews trie to har to be Germans an that was their greatest mistake. When people ont like you , they not like you an you shouldn’t like them. There is such a thing as the balance of emonisation an hatre. Kanu has achieve that i Nigeria an with the Igbo. Yes a lot of Nigerians were offense by Kanu rhetoric, but the Igbo Jhabvala always been at the receiving en of emonisation. Now they give as much as they get, an like the events in Kano after the capotation of Gideon Okar by moslem fanatics egge on by the current Emir of Kano, the Igbos retaliate massively an isprportionateley, thereby ensuring some form of ethnic peace in Kano for cease now.

    Whether Afonja genre journalists an their fellow travelers agree or not, Nnamdi Kanu has efinitively change the Nigerian narrative, an the flurry of Afonja genre writings an the panic thereof, are products of this realization, that the Igbo have ha enough, just like the Kurs in Iraq, Syria , Turkey an Iran, the Catalonian in Spain an the Western Camerounians. There is a limit to understanding, patience an all those platitudes spewe by oppressive regimes an environments. Let the Igbo go, so that the rest of you can enjoy your Lugardian Zoo, or restructure Nigeria, so it ceases to be a jungle, zoo an an eyesore to the rest of humanity. The choice is stark an thanks to Nnamdi Kanu, the end of Nigeria as we ha known it is nigh. Babylon is falling as it always oes. To hell with Nigeria!!

    • William Norris

      Nigerians are obsessed with the Igbo because the Igbo were the original fervent and most voluntary and highly successful collaborators with Colonialism.

      That’s it. It was a mistake by the Igbo to so desperately pursue the prize of Manager of the Colonial Prison. Some mistakes are difficult or impossible to overcome.

      Ask the White Americans about the consequences of American Slavery. Maybe you’ll get it.

      • Jon West

        I am quite happy that the Igbos were “collaborators” of colonialism, because sometimes I wonder what would have become of them , if they did not “collaborate”. Even after decades of “liberation”, Africa is mired in unbelievable backwardness. Yes, I am happy, but Sad that we did not get Biafra and freedom from association with these other Nigerians. We really don’t belong in this Zoo.

        • William Norris

          Africa has NEVER been liberated from European colonialism. All those “independence” dates are fraudlent.

          I don’t know what would have become of the Igbo if they didn’t collaborate. Who knows?

          Another thing I don’t get about Black Africans is this – if you collaborated back then, is the same thing necessary TODAY?

          I believe the African both as individual & tribe has imbibed the ontology of colonialism. Most of them are deathly afraid of having to produce their own wealth, they’d rather exist as 2nd rate parasites like egrets perched on the back of cattle, than be burdened with the responsibilities of freedom. I suspect what the Igbo really want is DIRECT NEO-COLONIALISM by the British, instead of the current system being run through the Fulani.

          And that’s their right. Sad though. I mean, if this is the “best” tribe in Black Africa then what does that say about the Negro?

          • Jon West

            No ,Mr Norris,No!! Biafra , run 95%(5% by minorities and a Yoruba female No 3, Mrs Ike) ,by the indefatigable Igbo, was the first and only technologically Independent Black State in history and that is a proven fact. They built their own war machines, cultivated food with novel technologies and ran a working Government that would be the envy of all Africa and even Asia. This was why The Whole of Europe, America and all others, conspired to end this uppity attitude from Niggers.

            They had earlier succeeded in ending the uppity political Independence of the Igbo Emperor, Toussaint le Overture in Haiti in 1804, after he set up the first Black Independent state after defeating the Army of Napoleon Bonaparte . Oh Boy, I am so proud of these people, so proud. They have done it before and will do it again. Read the book, “In Biafra Africa Died”, by Emefiene Ezeani, and then cry yourself to sleep for the stupidity of the Black man. I love these Igbos!!

          • William Norris

            Thank goodness you know Biafra was about 95% for Igbo and 5% for the minorities. Sounds almost like Buhari, just 2% better.

            Now you know why all those “minorities” weren’t so comfortable with Biafra. I can’t imagine there would have been Native Resource Control in Biafra or any kind of democracy until Ojukwu’s demise.

            In my view Biafra of 1967 and possibly today will just be a small version of Nigeria with the Anambra Igbo as the Fulani.

            And your claim to Igbo excellence is not replicated on neutral grounds like the USA and UK. I wonder why. I’m sure the Yoruba, Fulani, Tiv, Ijaw et c have their own tales of ascendancy and YES, they love their own people too.

            The Hindu and Buddhist or Confucian Chinese are too much for you all I suppose LOL !!! Anyway with Jesus, Anything Is Possible.

          • KWOY

            Don’t decieve yourself. Nigerians are said to be among the most successful groups in the US, & much of it is the Igbo. Igbos have more professors today in Harvard than the Yoruba who took an early start ineducation & civilization, never suffered dislocation in any war. In the UK which is Yoruba traditional enclave, Igbos are proping up in more responsble Position than they – after all the set backs by war & marginaliztion!
            Many in the Niger Delta are today realizing the game & realizing the Igbo is at least a lesser enemy. As Jon West said, they will all the more Need the Igbo when the oil dries up or becomes useless & their real enemies Show them they are no Special friends!

          • William Norris

            Degrees and university don’t make for success, they prepare you to be an employee. Yes, Nigerians are likely the most educated NATIONAL GROUPING in the USA, but that just reflects the Nigerian pursuit of CERTIFICATES as a meal ticket for CRUMBS from Massa’s table. Nigerians don’t pursue education in order to use it for PRACTICAL PRODUCTION and building of wealth.

            Think back to a member of this forum, American Igbo Abroad, MSc, PhD, Double Cantab, JP and philosopher extraordinary. He recommended Buhari as a worthy President for Nigeria.

            How many Igbo people have founded companies quoted on the US Stock Exchange?

            How many Igbo people are CEO’s of Fortune 500 companies?

          • KWOY

            You are correct. Adenuga, Tinubu, Dangote, etc have companies that can be quoted in the US stock Exchange – from oil wells & corruption for which they fought the war & are refusing restructuring. And this is one of the reasons for which we are fighting for Biafra!

          • Michael Kadiri SocioPolitical

            I really don’t think they will get it.

            If you succumb to your own ethnic prejudice as a launch pad for your world view and understanding, objective facts may likely elude you!!

          • Jon West

            Igbo excellence is replicated everywhere especially in the USA, where the Igbo spirit comes to the fore, from Dr Ben Omalu (Concussion advocate surgeon) to Okoye the MVP footballer to Phillip Emeagwali the supercomputer genius, the Igbo spirit walks tall. I have no problem with the Anambra Igbo, simply because he is Igbo. Can you get that into your skull?” I would rather be misruled by my own people, than be ruled well by foreigners”- James Callaghan, former British Prime Minister. Let my people go!!!

          • William Norris

            I would rather be misruled by my own people, than be ruled well by foreigners”- James Callaghan, former British Prime Minister.

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            That’s universal, my skull has already trapped that bit of knowledge long ago -I understand exactly why TRIBALISM is good and that is why the “minority” tribes of the defunct Biafra weren’t satisfied with 5%.

            On excellence, I’m asking about real power & control of the political economy and you’re talking about workers. There’s nothing the Igbo have achieved in the West that hasn’t been done by any other tribe in Nigeria. Yeah I know, Obama is Igbo too.

          • newvoice404

            What is an achievement in corroborating concussion that some other doctors/ people knew all along but were just concealing for monetary gains in the game? Other tribes around the world including from Nigeria have won MVP’s in various America sports and in other fields. Phillip Emeagwali is a liar and a kindergarten wannabe scientist (lying that he has a Phd) that has being exposed not to be near any achievement he was lying about and pretending to achieve. These lies and false narratives can only come so shamelessly from the mouth of recalcitrant Igbo men like you, that think they are superior to everyone despite the fact that many other tribes from Africa have really achieved what they are managing to get to now genuinely or otherwise. Shame again

          • KWOY

            Thanks immensely my bro Jon West! I’m always enlightened & encouraged by you!

      • FrNinja

        Nigerians are not obsessed with the Igbo. Their culture clashes with that of the Igbo. The Igbo are everything Nigerians on average are not. Culturally most Nigerians are subservient. Igbos are not. Most Nigerians are passive . The Igbos are aggressive.

  • MDG2020

    Hypocritical “pastor or senior elder” segun, never disappoints.
    Hypocrites are by the way the basest form of human. The bible said they are neither HOT nor COLD and have no place in the mouth of God.

    • KWOY

      Thanks. You know him!

    • William Norris

      It’s a Nigerian thing. The Igbo are also 99.9999% Christian so go figure.

  • tdjakesNG

    Segun,I find your articles beneath the intellectualism I had attributed to you,but like Norris will write,you have become the Naija Middle-Class.I find it very nauseating,that of all NK has been saying the only thing you had was his insults,but True Omoniles like Fayose and FFK heard more,welldone you hear.
    I thought as someone who had been Presidential spokesperson,you dont need to play correct but truly what do I know.I am writing that because I dont want to believe that you are IGBOPHOBIC but all pointer suggest that.First you want to tar all Igbos with same brush,but will want us to excuse all yorubas from Oba Akiolu,s diatribes.Or maybe your angst is because he said bad things about RCCG.But he wasn,t the first,that tirade has been circulating,as I heard it from other people who pointed out that all the Senior Pastors of RCCG are Yorubas?Is that a coincidence or is it Buharitrics.Let RCCG address it ,if he is wrong.To me ,all Churches in Nigeria are full of Con men,as I cant see why we should have all these churches and yet we have so much hatred and corruption.
    So Segun,because of NK tirades,you support the killing of “OKADA FLAG CARRYING IPOB boys” yet you are or claim to be a christian.Pray tell me,who amongst all your holy man has come out to condemn such hatred and ethnic cleansing.Yet all I hear is NK this and NK that.What kind of hate speech is equal to bare faced hatred that these so called Christian leaders have shown to the common man ,all because Nnamdi blasted them.Where is there Christian spirit,group of black hearted demons in church.Please don’t get me started.
    NK apologised to FFK and Fayose,yet that is not enough for you and you have the effrontery to stand in the house of God to spew your rubbish,It is God tHat I blame,for not striking all you reptiles dead like in the old testament.
    Nk also blasted Igbo leaders and even Ohaneze,he even blasted GEJ,and we all know why.He was angry.NK has no problem with Iya Kudi or Baba hafiz,but his and my problem is with you,Segun,with The SE Govs,with the Norther Politicians ,and in short ,all the Nigerian Elites,You guys are a brood of vipers,no wonder the code name to silence him,is Python,how apt.But like Christ said,woe will betide you all,as the day of reckoning is coming.You guys keep brainwashing the gullible,but it will all pass soon.Continuuu.
    Please face your Hussle,and leave Nk and the downtrodden to face thier.Afterall ,like my young compatriots will saY,WHO U EPP.

    • KWOY

      God bless you: The day of reckoning is coming! The day in which ALL LIARS will be brought to judegement! – It is coming!

      • William Norris

        Yeah, Jesus Is Coming Soon, we know.

        • Michael Kadiri SocioPolitical

          Lol

          #bringsenseback

  • Obi Ike Sorres

    Yorubas curse a lot. For them is a hobby and art thing even for fun. So don’t use Kanu abuse to deny the real message. You see why black man cannot develop even for a journalist like Segun. A curse won’t kill you, but injustices of economic resources will kill a people. The injustices in the land affect most your so called educated and uneducated southwest brothers they just cover it with clothes. Go to most part of Lagos they are not productive but always looking for exortation and rent seeking activities instead of real productivity. Black man is too emotional why he runs to religion for all his problem instead of tacking the real pain or problem. Curse won’t kill you, disease, no food, no light, no house, no good road will kill you

    • pel boi

      So funny how as an Ibo man curses do not mean anything but you foam in the mouth when Oba Akiolu made his declaration!Hypocrisy sha!

      • Obi Ike Sorres

        Oba was not fighting a good cause that helps all but his sole political interest.

  • Mystic mallam

    Segun never disappoints with his penchant to please everyone all at once; a primary characteristic of men without strong convictions, men who choose to perch on the fence of neutrality because it appears safer and more rewarding. Segun sounds like an intelligent person, albeit, a superficial one as the constancy of his logical inconsistency and self-contradictions easily reveal. In one breath, he pontificates against the fallacy of over-generalisation as portrayed in “MAGUN”, in the next breath he confesses that Mr Kanu’s provocative use of insults has coloured how he and the rest of Nigerians perceive the Igbo collective – just because of Kanu’s rants!!! His judgement is even more absurd – ”it was bad politics to have allowed Kanu to run riot” – as if Kanu needed anyone’s permission to propagate his hate. How much did Northern elders intervention [such as it was] with Shekau stop the murderous mission of Boko Haram, or Yoruba elders contain OPC or Ijaw leaders tame the ND avengers? In my view, stupid is stupid irrespective of who exhibits it. Kanu, a self-accounting grown man, was certainly stupid in his choice of words to propagate his cause, but to blame his stupidity on the Igbo who ”allowed” him to run riot is equally absurd. Segun enjoys dodging the real issue confronting Nigeria – usurpation of the peoples’ land and wealth by a greedy central govt – to harp only on the resultant reactions of the stressed out inhabitants forced to share the crumbs from what originally belongs to them. Return power over land, liquid/solid minerals and other resources to their communal owners and watch irritants like Kanu fade away into oblivion. Continue with the present stealing and sharing in Abuja of the peoples’ birthrights and wait for the emergence of more Kanu’s until the day something gives, one way or another.

    • obinnna77

      In summa.

  • moribund9ja

    The observation about Nnamdi KANU’s hate speech is 100% right.

    I personally believe in Biafra independence. But Kanu is hopelessly abusive. I have severally written about Kanu’s unrestrained abuses. He doesn’t need to abusive people to make his point about Biafran independence. In fact such abuses are trivializing the whole struggle as an infantile cause.

    The graphic picture that Dr. Dahwa has painted about the state of hospitals in Nigeria especially in the north has shown how hopeless Nigeria is as a country.

    • KWOY

      THEY ARE USING ‘HATE SPEECH’ (which they use their media to do more than anybody else- read Jide Oluwajuyitan, Sam Omatseye & co in Thenation!) TO FIGHT BIAFRA CAUSE. If hate speech is your problem, then let them allow a referendum!

      • moribund9ja

        The important thing is to make logical arguments and stand to be challenged or corrected. Certainly not abuses! Kanu is very abusive. That is totally unbiafran.
        We are educated and intelligent people.

        • KWOY

          Will you support the Biafra cause without hate speech?

    • William Norris

      Why can’t Dr Dahwa get together with his people and OTHER medical professionals and initiate some PRIVATE solutions to the problems?

      Why must he work for the Federal Government?

      https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/nigerian-doctor-runs-his-hospital-corn-cobs-and-used-bike-parts

      • bigdaddy

        Lol. I am a doctor too and what Dr. Dawha enumerated is spot on. Do you know what the solution is? Very simple. Just get ready to pay through your noses for health care. I am sure you have seen people begging for money to pay for quality health services outside the country. Are you ready to pay such monies for you health care Mr. William?
        But if you have your money you can get very good healthcare in this country. For instance, in my hospital if your wife is in labour, she can get one on one nursing, state of the art facilities, Drs at her beck and call, state of the art neonatal services and neonatal drs. But guess what you will part with 500k for a normal delivery?

  • KWOY

    THEY ARE USING ‘HATE SPEECH’ (which they use their media to do more than anybody else- read Jide Oluwajuyitan, Sam Omatseye & co in Thenation!) TO FIGHT BIAFRA CAUSE. If hate speech is their problem, let them allow a referendum!

    • William Norris

      OK, we heard you.

      !!!

  • benedict chindi

    Another utterly dire article.

    In the first instance the writer argues that the actions of one individual should not be held against the ethnic group to which he belongs, and in the next breath argues (in his response to the referenced letter), that one individual has indeed done enormous damage to his ethnic group “because he was allowed (key word “allowed”) to abuse, threaten and malign other Nigerians”.

    The irony being that the Kanu and his group who have abused and maligned others, are more symptomatic of igbos than the hundreds of thousand (maybe millions) of also maligned and abused “tribe-blind” igbos who attend and pay a tenth of their incomes to CAC, RCCG, Deeper Life, Day Star, Living Faith and other sundry “Yoruba” Churches. The same igbos who (even without considering the civil war), have paid the most price in blood and means for the Unity of this country.

    The writer however fails to tell us if the killings, vandalism, kidnapping and wanton economic sabotage (actions not rhetoric or insults) of Fulani herdsmen, Boko Haram, OPC, Niger Delta Militants etc. have done enormous damage to the ethnic or religious groups to which they belong. And by the way, Buhari and El Rufai did say that “an attack on Boko Haram is an attack on all muslims”; while Ben Nwabueze (the only individual this writer has named in a previous article as “genuflecting in front of a boy young enough to be his grand son”) and the Ohanaeze leadership never endorsed IPOB’s rhetoric or goals.

    You see our dear writer should be careful, cause some of his so-called “closest friends as well as mentors (professional and spiritual)” of Igbo extraction won’t be best pleased by this hideous article.

    • KWOY

      Hate speech (which they do more than any other with their media!) is their own invention to fight the Biafra struggle. If all their problem is hate speech, let them side-step it & allow a referendum!

      And if you are talking abt hate speech, then read Jide Oluwajuyintan, Sam Omatesye, & all of them in Thenation

    • Obi Ike Sorres

      For me I think there is a veiled hatred for the Igbos even those who are exposed and educated . It’s there. They just pretend about it. Even Igbos saying they want out to them is a blatant affront for them. They see it as no go area after all Igbos have been accommodated in all region of the country then u ask at what cost?

  • E.Udah

    My firt taste of internal xenophobia in Nigeria was in 1996. I was moving out of my brother’s house in Lagos to rent my own apartment. With enough money saved, no agent/landlord of south west extraction was willing or ready to give me his house to rent. Reasons? I was tagged ‘omon ibo’.
    This was long before NK came up with his ‘hate speeches’. For a whole year I couldn’t secure a house!
    I once payed for a house in lagos where my rent was twice the normal rent because I was the only ‘omon ibo’ tenant.
    Let’s not blame today’s problems on NK that started two years ago.
    The hatred for the igbo race predates Nigeria’s independence.
    Afterall, MASSOB/Uwazorike didn’t come with ‘hate speeches’. And what happened to them?

    • William Norris

      “Afterall, MASSOB/Uwazorike didn’t come with ‘hate speeches’. And what happened to them?”

      What happened is that majority of Igbo didn’t support them.

      And oh, millions of Igbo rent and own property in Lagos.

  • idris

    I had thought that Segun Adeniyi was an intelligent fellow… I obviously allowed myself to be misdirected.

    • Kelly

      This response really confirmed what I have been thinking about Segun Adeniyi, I can confirm purely that he is just a grown up child. Allowing Kanu’s rants to form his opinion is the height of hypocrisy and childishness, I doubt if Segun has not been benefiting from his so called “Igbo friends” there still would be any friendship after all. It’s obvious he was just looking for an opportunity to reaffirm and convince himself about his Igbo phobia and Kanu provided him an opportunity. Good Luck Mr Adeniyi

  • benedict chindi

    Another utterly dire article.

    In which in the first instance the writer argues that the actions of one individual should not be held against the ethnic group to which he belongs, and in the next breath argues (in his response to that one individual has indeed done enormous damage to his ethnic group “because he was allowed (key word “allowed”) to abuse, threaten and malign other Nigerians”.

    The irony being that the Kanu and his group who has abused and maligned others, are more symptomatic of igbos than the hundreds of thousand (maybe millions) of also maligned and abused “tribe-blind” igbos who attend and pay a tenth of their incomes to CAC, RCCG, Deeper Life, Day Star, Living Faith and other sundry “Yoruba” Churches. The same igbos who (even without considering the civil war), have paid the most price in blood and means for the Unity of this country.

    The writer however fails to tell us if the killings, vandalism, kidnapping and wanton economic sabotage (actions not rhetoric or insults) of Fulani herdsmen, Boko Haram, OPC, Niger Delta Militants etc. have done enormous damage to the ethnic or religious groups to which they belong. And by the way, Buhari and El Rufai did say that “an attack on Boko Haram is an attack on all muslims”; while Ben Nwabueze (the only individual this writer has named in a previous article as “genuflecting in from of a boy young enough to be his grand son”) and the Ohanaeze leadership never endorsed IPOB’s rhetoric or goals.

    You see our dear writer should be careful, cause some of his so-called “closest friends as well as mentors (professional and spiritual)” of Igbo extraction won’t be best pleased by this hideous article.

  • KWOY

    You are a cheap liar! THERE WILL NEVER BE A REASON OR TIME ANY YORUBA, HAUSA/FULANI, OR OGONI WILL ACCEPT BIAFRA! Therefore you are only latching on ‘hate speech’ to fight it. Otherwise, put the style apart &
    Meanwh

    • Fidelis Arumala

      Emotions! Emotions!! Emotions!!!
      Please add some measure of sobriety to your postulates. The majority of us have a measure of sympathy for the Igbo cause, but hot-headed emotional remarks like yours, takes away the genuine cause for agitation. I am from the Niger Delta, what some of us who are students of society are seeking, is genuine RESTRUCTURING of the country for the greater good.
      You don’t cast a blanket ASPERSIONS on a whole tribe and don’t expect rebuttal, about time you separate individual participations from the WHOLE.

      • KWOY

        What of people who say that Igbos have no cause; the same problemns afflict everybody everywhere? You can then determine whether they are lying or not. Secondly, if you read the Yoruba columnists & writers (outside a few) in all the newspapers (esp. thenation) everyday, then you would not be talking about casting a blanket aspersion on a whole group on me! Read Sam Omatseye, read Oluwajuyintan, read Segun Ayobolu, read, Tunji Adegboyega, etc!!

        Secondly, nigeria is a historical accident & cannot be an obligation on anybody. We want a referendum & it is our right.

        • Fidelis Arumala

          For the record, Sam Omatseye is Itsekiri. That he is the editorial board Chairman of the Nation newspaper doesn’t make him a Yoruba. This is the danger in making BLANKET statements and casting ASPERSIONS on the WHOLE. Treat each subject matter on their individual merit or otherwise. FFK, Ayodele Fayose all YORUBAS (not a fan of both though), have both rallied to Nnamdi Kanu’s cause, not because he is right about the way he is going about it, but because of the INJUSTICE in the present Nigeria set up that he is raging against. Take a step back and look at the mirror again and tell me what you see.

          • Obi Ike Sorres

            Some. Niger Deltans would rather be and identify with Yoruba than be Niger Deltans. Some are very confused. They want to be more Yoruba than the Yorubas

      • Obi Ike Sorres

        Could you please grow think skin and leave the abuse or messenger and support the message that portray the injustices. Niger deltas suffer it much. I want that restructuring too but when it doesn’t happen give me Biafra. You guys have this thing that Igbos will come with their domination, No. why I want that restructuring is now u could have stand up to demand restructuring but u all now feel is Igbo thing.

        • Fidelis Arumala

          William Norris has appropriately situated the SOLUTION in his post above. Let every TRIBE, NATIVES be FREE in their own autonomous enclave. Nobody should make any attempt to dominate anyone, let each tribe, Natives, RISE AND FALL on their own terms. FREEDOM! This is what RESTRUCTURING engenders. Enough said!

      • Jon West

        “The majority of us have a measure of sympathy for the Igbo cause”, and this from a Niger deltan ? The Igbo cause is what should set the Niger Delta free and should, in normal circumstances ,be tightly embraced by those long suffering and really abused peoples. However, I always wonder why these people always try to be more Nigerian than their oppressors ,who steal their resources and patrimony , under the guise of Nigerian unity. The Igbo should, as advised by William Norris, make a public and cultural declaration of their lack of interest in the Niger Delta and their oil resources, because these people dont get the Nigerian game.They will never get it. The Igbo will be swamped by the jetsam and flotsam of the Niger Delta, when in a maximum of two decades, the oil economy of Nigeria finally ends, and these people realise too late, that they had lost everything- resources, education, skills, environment etc, in exchange for being used to prop up Nigeria and demonize the Igbo. Pathetic!!

        • KWOY

          I wish the rest of our brothers in the Niger Delta could be gifted with your insight & join in the struggle against our common enemies. In my comment I once told Tabia Princewill that the most she can achieve with her bile against Jonathan & the Ijaw is that neither Jonathan, the Ijaw or the Igbo can can have it; because there is no way those using her will give it to the Ogoni in any case!

          • Gary

            Yes, we Niger Deltans are too stupid to think much less stand for our own self/determination without subordination to the all/wise and brave Igbo nation.
            It’s your ethnocentrism and brashness towards others at the root of the Igbo malaise in Nigeria.
            The Anioma dare not tell you heartlanders that they share cultural and historical ties to the Edo and others in the Midwest. Nor can the Ike’s deign to want to stand alone and relate to you Biafrans as equals and not subordinates. Kanu did not even wait to get his dream Biafra before laying claims to the Idomas of Benue and Igalas in Kogi.
            Orji Kalu bought a mansion In Ikoyi and that was all he needed to declare Lagos as “No man’s Land”.
            See a pattern here? You Igbos, especially the literati and the half-educated, are your own worst enemies.
            God blessed the Igbo with many talents forgot to give them tact and humility for getting along with neighbors. Everyone might have one, but Igboman will insist that his own Mercedes is the biggest and best one.
            Then his brother/s feel compelled to join in self-congratulations.
            Ojukwu tried it and failed. Kanu after all his braggadocio, is now AWOL. You folks are here abusing everyone who refuse to bow to Igbo supremacy. Good luck guys, you have the biggest balls in Africa…but not doing you much good. Until you come to terms that you have neither the numbers nor the space to make it on your own without the support or at worst, neutrality of those you love to denigrate as cowards and idiots.

          • FrNinja

            Well said. The Igbo man’s seed of greatness is his confidence in his individuality. The Igbo man’s downfall is his excessive ego. That ego makes him extremely politically stupid.

          • newvoice404

            Very apt , Gary. Cheers

          • MLK

            Gbam!

      • William Norris

        Hey, can you explain the particulars of your stand on the Igbo cause?

        What do you mean by restructuring?

        Thanks.

        • Fidelis Arumala

          Dear WN,
          My “particulars” on the Igbo cause, is simply derived from the visible marginalization of her people in this political dispensation, one, other segment and regions of the country also lay claim to. I intentionally narrowed it down to this DISPENSATION because they also have been a big beneficiary of the Nigerian political architecture. Since 1979, the Igbos have been big players in the Nigerian social political scene down to the most recent past. What I seek, which has been well DOCUMENTED by you in many of your post here, is a return to a commonsensical order, where every region will take RESPONSIBILITY for themselves, an autonomous system like that of the Catalonians within a sovereign state called Nigeria. This is the RESTRUCTURING we all are yearning for, that this APC government is simply depriving us of after articulating it in its manifesto.

          • William Norris

            Thanks.

    • William Norris

      Nnamdi Kanu should have formed a political party with a platform of tribal autonomy or negotiated independence. I’m pretty sure that’s legal in Nigeria.

      Or he can join APGA or whatever party and use it as a political vehicle for his agenda.

      I used to wonder why the Igbo Biafrans cum tribalists never take the political road. The Yoruba have done this and won some sort of rudimentary autonomy.

      I think Nnamdi Manu and his ilk understand what I know now – that the Igbo were the most fervent original collaborators in the Colonial Project and as such the vast majority will never support anything that endangers it.

      • pel boi

        You are very correct!

        • William Norris

          The Yoruba are even worse. Because they are REVERTING back to what the Igbo used to be.

          First they tossed Afenifere because those Awoist elders supported the original tribalism visio n of Awolowo AND also supported the reforms by Jonathan that were an actual manifestation of tribal autonomy.

          Where the Igbo are the handmaiden of the British, the Yoruba are divided between Christians and Isamists who look to Sokoto and Mecca. It’s very clear that the Islamists have the upper hand and have dragged the Yoruba into slavery to the Caliphate.

          I’m sure you won’t like that one, but seriously why did soomeokne like Soyinka support Buhari?

          Between the British and the Arabs, who do you prefer as your Colonial Master?

          In some ways the Biafra war or struggle of 1967 was an effort of the Igbo to escape INDIRECT colonialism via the Fulani and adopt DIRECT colonialism under the British or maybe the French?

      • KWOY

        Don’t show yourself naive. The current propagagnda about hate speech I told you is a tool for fighting against Biafra as a social & political cause. They devised it just because they don’t want Biafra & bcos they can’t lay hands on any other thing against it. If u are sincere, INEC won’t even register any such party & the Yoruba media would justrify its non-registration. It is just like asking those clamouring for restructuring to go through their reps. in the NASS – knowing it is dead on Arrival. The Yoruba enjoys no special autonomy. They are just playing a comfortable 2nd fiddle, which they are comfortable with since they have little to lose & moreso since it keeps their enemies & competitors down.

        • William Norris

          APGA is already registered; Kanu doesn’t need to register a party, he can take over an existing one, that’s what the Igbo elite and Jonathan did with the PDP, leading to an exodus of the core Northern elite. Donald Trump has done essentially the same thing with the Republican Party.

          I said the Yoruba have a RUDIMENTARY sort of autonomy, mostly on the strength of their control of Lagos and MOST of their States.

          Yoruba media is not invincible. This is the age of the internet, why can’t an Igbo person launch their own news medium? One of the top 5 Nigeria websites is run by an Igbo woman, Linda Ikeji. I’m very sure she’s not interested in Biafra at all and like every good Christian is pursuing her PERSONAL SALVATION.

          Ijeoma Nwogwugwu is a top manager on this very newspaper we’re writing on and she’s a die hard One Nigeria enthusiast.

          Facts, facts, facts. Let Buhari & Tinubu swallow their pride and give Nnamdi Kanu one appointment so the people of the Zoo can have some peace and quiet. I thought almsgiving was a pillar of Islam so let them get with it ASAP.

          • KWOY

            Like all Yoruba, you can think of any other option exceept secession. You cannot do without nigeria bcos your life depends on it! But that is our own minimum point of negotiation!

          • William Norris

            I do support secession for everyone except for this hard fact – the British who own Nigeria are unlikely to allow it AND NO TRIBE has the means or ENOUGH motivation to make it happen.

            Thanks

  • Olisa

    In an age where people of other climes have gone beyond organizing themselves into projecting their intelligence unto man-made machines(Artificial Intelligence), Nigerian “intelligentsia” cannot rise above petty insults from the likes of Nnamdi Kanu to meet the urgent need to reorganize a failing society into productive units.

    When a man is characterized as a lion, stallion or an eagle, he does not feel insulted for been compared to animals, instead, he feels exalted for being associated with dignity, courage and foresight. When a failed state repleted with wanton corruption, wickedness, injustices, chaos, jungle justice is charitably regarded as a Lugardian Zoo- instead of the more fitting Lugardian Jungle, intelligent people should soberly and objectively reflect on the merits of this metaphors and other nuisance values Kanu as brought to the table- and act to effect the much-needed fundamental changes to save what is left of this country.

    • Michael Kadiri SocioPolitical

      Thank you
      #bringbacksense

    • William Norris

      Save what country though? Save a prison camp?

      Anyone that thinks of Nigeria as a “country” hasn’t even started thinking about real solutions. It’s like trying to figure out why the sky is green or why snow fell in Ilorin last week.

      Nigerians of course already know this, which is why they’re only interested in SAVING THEMSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS/FAMILIES, they know there’s no country, there’s just CRUMBS & SCRAPS falling off the Colonial plate and they’re doing their best in a do or die struggle to grab their share.

      What country? Please don’t make me laugh.

      • Olisa

        I believe that what you mean by “prison camp” is that Nigeria is a country with an oppressive system. We are on the same page on that.
        I also believe that the reason why you’ve been proffering loose federalism and a freemarket system for the country is because you believe if adopted, the country might have a chance. We are also on the same page on that.

        • William Norris

          I proffer those solutions so that THE PEOPLE might have a chance.

          My ideal, utopian solution for Nigeria and most African countries would be TRIBAL INDEPENDENCE, but that has been foreclosed by the MILITARY, ECONOMIC & CULTURAL stranglehold of European colonialism which still controls the country.

          Given that REALITY, my proposals seek to get the Nigerian PEOPLE to stop collaborating with the Colonial Project and seek their own ways of generating the kind of living standards they seek while still remaining under the colonial yoke they have chosen to live under.

          • Olisa

            A country is truly free when the people are free.

          • William Norris

            OK, if you say so.

            Is South Africa free? Namibia? Ivory Coast? Hmmmm. It’s OK.

          • KWOY

            Bros, please I accept in totality your suggestion. If TRIBAL INDEPENDENCE is guaranteed, I will accep that. But guess who fights against it the most Adeniyi, Kayode Komolafe, Dele Momodu, Simon KOLAWOLE, Isa Aremu, Sam Omatsesye, etc. This is what Ekwueme, Soludo, Ekweremadu, Anyaoku & so on have been preaching but which columnists mainly from the SW oppose. BUT let us today agree on this Position & begin to fight for it. You can Count on me as an ally!

            You are damn sincere & correct when you say there is no Nation yet; & that can only be achieved if we adopt TRIBAL INDEPENDECE!

  • Paul

    Segun, have found “Kanu’s useless speeches” as an alibi to help him accentuate his deep narrow opinion of the Igbos. Apart from the “Kanu’s ranting” on the internet about Yoruba pastors and their Igbo congregation,tell us what else that Kanu said? Kanu’s internet rant was stupid pure and simple. Segun, may not know because he is not Igbo, that Igbos have for decades suffered from hate speeches not made on the internet but on their face both as individuals and as a collective here in Nigeria. To the Igbos the worst hate speech is the frequent killing of Igbos in the North for decades and the perpetrators are hardly arrested or punished……… Again, Segun, categorize IPOB members as ”okada” riders,( that is hate speech by the way) yes they may be, but we have had illiterate soldiers rule Nigeria for decades where is Nigerian standing today in the comity of Nations? For those you call “okada” riders most of the are graduates and that they are “okada” rider should not mean that they can not have their own opinion and convictions.

    • KWOY

      There can be no greater hater than the Yorubas with their media. Sam Omatseye, Eniola Bello, etc pour acids on the Igbo every day…Del Momodu Tod Buhari that he knows what happened to Jonathan (meaning what the Yoruba media did to Jonathan)! See below what the former CJN said abt the media abt 2015 election

      https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/09/18/ex-cjn-nigeria-became-more-divided-after-2015-presidential-election/

    • ladi9lives

      categorizing IPOB members as okada riders is at best stereotyping.Different cultures are know to dominate different trades.It would be no more hate speech to call OPC members taxi drivers

  • William Norris

    Please, what’s with all this hand wringing, blame this or that person, please…Nigerians should just face the REAL PROBLEM squarely and stop all the nonsense that passes for discussion.

    THE REASON FOR ALL THE ANOMIE & DYSFUNCTION IN NIGERIA IS THIS – THE NATIVES OF NIGERIA HAVE BEEN DISPOSSESSED OF THEIR FREEDOM AND WEALTH AND HAVE RESORTED TO FIGHTING EACH OTHER OVER SCRAPS & CRUMBS RATHER THAN CONFRONT THE POWERS THAT ROBBED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    The problem with Nigeria is simple – THE COLONIAL CONDITION.

    Nigeria is a PRISON. Anyone who has been in prison understands the psychology of confinement. You have to struggle with other inmates for access to VERY LIMITED privileges, food, space, dignity. No prisoner thinks of fighting the WARDEN, they fight their fellow prisoners.

    An intelligent warden will create incentives for obedient prisoners in order to provide some HOPE for the inmate population, and a selected few inmates will use that avenue well and get extra meals, blankets and field trips to visit the town. The struggle to become a FAVORED PRISONER is essentially the struggle of the middle classes and tribes of Nigeria. In the throes of that struggle, Nigerians degrade and dehumanize each other and strip themselves of their very essence, making the job of the Warden that much easier.

    The laws that ENABLE THE COLONIAL CONDITION are the Petroleum Act, the Solid Minerals Act and the Land Use Act, regulated pricing and all other laws that have STOLEN the wealth and property and markets of the Native Peoples and handed them over to a colonial corporation called “Federal Government of Nigeria” This is no different from what happened to the peoples of South Africa, Zimbabwe, Australia, Canada etc. The only difference is that the MANAGERS of those colonial corporations are WHITE SETTLERS, while in Nigeria the MANAGERS are Natives who have SOLD OUT their own people in return for personal wealth. And EVERY NIGERIAN wants to be a MANAGER, that’s essentially why they go to school, not to learn any skill to help their people, but to obtain a certificate that QUALIFIES THEM to at least enter the race to become a colonial collaborator.

    Until those stolen properties and freedoms are returned, the Native Peoples imprisoned in Nigeria will NEVER BE HAPPY with their lot and they will NEVER love Nigeria and therefore will NEVER work to improve and preserve Nigeria.

    Stop all the rigmarole. The starting point is for the prisoners to REJECT the rules of the prison but the INDIVIDUAL NIGERIAN is too cowardly, too greedy and too hopeful to do that. So the beat goes on…..Nigeria is an exercise in futility !!!

    • KWOY

      Envy of the Igbo is the psychological strength of the Yoruba, so they cannot approximate your level of reasoning. They will prefer everybody fails provided the Igbo does not get up!

      • remm ieet

        You deliberately sidetracked his argument so that you can unleash your venom against the Yoruba who have not directly offended you. You have just displayed the exact same attitude William has condemned. The struggle is individualistic and it has always been that way in the Nigerian context.

        • KWOY

          Yorubas resisted the implementation of Aburi in order not to allow the Igbo come back. (Read who ‘unstructured Nigeria in the first place fom Duro Onabule in his Sun column). Consider their contribution to the failure of OJs political Reform conference. Consider their Opposition to 2014 Jonathan national conference. The struggle is not individualistic.The struggle in nigeria is ethnic group struggle. The Yoruba 2015 campaign was not individualistic. The Tell me why support or against restructuring differ according to ethnic.

          • pel boi

            As usual you couldn’t resist but spew your venom against the Yoruba… My brother… Your hatred of Yorubas will not give you Biafra or development that the SE badly needs… Its comments like these that further strengthen Yoruba irrendentists… The writer merely preached unity and condemned the divisive rhetoric of NK….. (who by the way despite his chest beating and loud mouth has gone to hide)…Yorubas are cowards! Yorubas are cowards ! yet Ojukwu after leading thousands of Ibos in senseless slaughter during the civil war ran to Ivory Coast and came back 12 years later to run for Senate on a Hausa/Fulani platform.. and lost. Same thing is playing out with NK… If this is your definition of “bravery” i think i would rather pick cowardice…

          • KWOY

            Even before I was born Igbos have never recieved the support of Yorubas. And the last I can expect is the support of Yorubas to actualize Biafra! Who then are we campaining against, or from whom was Ojukwu & NK running if not the Yoruba? Yorubas are cowards because they can justify the kind of military atrocity by python dance as far as it can help them preserve nigeria! The Yoruba cannot survive on its own! It will align with the devil to crush the break up of Nigeria or any Change that enthrones fair competition. Mnwhile, we will keep running bcos we are contending against forces against our freedom which happens to be temporarily greater than us!

          • benedict chindi

            Please stop….as already pointed out, your rhetoric does neither you nor other igbos any good.

          • KWOY

            Do not hope upon anybody! It is an Illusion. Except it is to be quiet to accept your fate! In any case, the system will not endure. It will collapse! So, do not fear to offend anybody!

          • benedict chindi

            I’m not afraid to offend anyone, its just unnecessary. We are all victims of this failed system – all of us suffer from the failure of the Nigerian state. Abusing and insulting fellow prisoners in the gulag makes no sense.

            Besides, what has the average Kunle or Funke reading your piece ever done to deserve the abuse? You are making the same mistake as Segun Adeniyi; allowing the actions of a few to colour your impression of the group to which they belong.

            Just my two cents.

          • Michael Kadiri SocioPolitical

            A very worthy two cents it is too!!
            For there is no suffering going on in the east that is not replicated everywhere else in Nigeria.
            Does NEPA discriminate? Poor hospitals and roads and bad education – do all these ills care which Nigerian they afflict?
            Rather than face the individuals who are redefining bad leadership, we spend time blaming each other – lazy thinking!

          • William Norris

            Your comment here is Classic Colonial Collaboration.

            I shouldn’t have to explain.

            I mean, what is a Nigerian to a man of understanding? When did that animal come into existence? I’ve been in this Zoo awhile and never saw such an animal.

          • pel boi

            Lol… Wow! Selective amnesia isnt good o… One question though? Please where was NK and other Igbo leaders when Save Nigeria Group made up of Tunde Bakare and Wole Soyinka fought the Katsina Mafia who wanted to prevent GEJ from acting as president? Or you have forgotten that the same Wole Soyinka (who a lot of ibos insult and deride for cautiously supporting Buhari) went to jail because he supported Biafra? Btw.. please which South East governor was present when NK was granted bail? I know a Yoruba Coward governor was there… so also another Afonja ex-minister… Like i said.. if your idea of bravery is what i think it is… I think i would pick cowardice thank you

          • KWOY

            Tell me your reaction & reception of those minsiters & governors! What names did you call them? Do not use what you rejected as a satndard of your morality!

          • pel boi

            That is besides the point… Yes Yorubas may disagree on positions relating to our existence within Nigeria. Besides despite the impression that Yorubas betrayed GEJ in 2015, he still won about 40% of Yoruba votes… By applying you’re logic what names did u call them? Did u hail them or as usual revert to your labelling of Yorubas as traitors and cowards? As much as a lot of Yorubas deride Fayose and FFK does not erase the fact that they are Yorubas and as such are painted with by your coward brush.. Yorubas have consistently (until 2015) played opposition politics against the North… while the rest of Nigeria struggled to play 2nd fiddle… Yet Ibo irrendentists like you twist narrative to justify your hatred against Yorubas…

          • William Norris

            The Save Nigeria Group was acting in defense of the Colonial Project, they wanted everyone to OBEY THE RULES of the COLONIAL PRISON, looking back now I don’t think they were out for the welfare of the Nigerian people.

            The average Nigerian middle class and above or intellectual that engages in protest is basically insisting that the CRUMBS of Colonialism must be shared according to agreed on rules; such Nigerians DON’T protest for freedom.

            The Yoruba who supported Jonathan did so with the HOPE that the status quo would continue, which means continuing the robbery of the Niger Delta AND other tribes in order to DISTRIBUTE THE CRUMBS to the middle class collaborators and intelligensia. They were protesting for FREE EDUCATION, FREE FUEL, free healthcare, free pilgrimages, easy government employment, free roads….free, free, free….without paying taxes.

            EVIDENCE – as soon as Jonathan made a move to give Nigerians REAL FREEDOM by withdrawing fuel subsidies and pushing PIB, the same people turned against him.

            It’s noteworthy that the original PIB contained 10% OWNERSHIP for crude oil & natural gas producing communities. No patriotic Nigerian wants that.

          • pel boi

            Wow.. its comments like these that make me scoff at any idea of a “southern solidarity” and why i laugh at pious Yorubas who deem it fit to fight other people’s battles…. For a second lets assume you are right… (As a Yoruba man who voted for GEJ… Ure DEAD WRONG- Yorubas voted for GEJ because they saw parallels with the June 12 debacle) how will all these taxes benefit you as a Niger Deltan? So when all Nigerians (including Niger Deltans) pay for oil (which by the way is in decline) through their noses…. the Niger Delta will develop right? Or you want to make more money for your militants and governors… Tbh i dont know why we Southerners insult the North when most of us have the same almajiri mentality! shame!

          • William Norris

            I’m NOT a Niger Deltan !!!

            After the Yoruba were settled with the Presidency they rolled over and went to sleep like good petro-patriots.

            Where are all the Niger Delta militants now?

            Let’s stop the nonsense OK? I’ve made a painstaking effort to explain the realities of Blac African self abnegation. My comments are clear, easy to understand and borne out of keen observation and experience. I no longer need to be self effacing, I’ve been proven correct too many times.

          • pel boi

            The Yoruba were settled? Or you mean Obasanjo that couldn’t even fix the road to his homestead?

          • William Norris

            Yeah that Obasanjo. Just like Jonathan couldn’t fix up his own village EVEN THOUGH THE IJAW OWN THE CRUDE OIL.

            Just like the North is the poorest region despite 40 years of Northern Presidency.

            Yes the same OBJ that swept the Yoruba vote in 2003.

            Is there another one?

          • pel boi

            Of course i make no excuses for OBJ’s victory in the SW IN 2003. It is a native son syndrome prevalent almost everywhere in the world!

          • William Norris

            The reply I get the most on that topic is that OBJ rigged the election.

            And I reply that Yoruba are known to be the most hard core defenders of their votes in Nigeria.

            Respects.

          • pel boi

            Are you minding those people?kmt! Obj won the SW in 2003 because Yorubas saw the way Atiku treated Obj and realised that a SW base in the PDP wld strengthen OBJ’s hand! The same reason why Atiku will struggle in the SW come 2019!

          • Obi Ike Sorres

            Why did he now changed and brought somebody he knew couldn’t perform? Constintency is a good hallmark in things that are serious

          • ladi9lives

            spoken by an igbo man probably residing in yoruba lands in a property rented from a yoruba landlord

          • Obi Ike Sorres

            That hatred goes both ways

          • “Korede

            Somebody stated it

          • Obi Ike Sorres

            He didn’t preach any unity. If he wants unity he should ignore the abuses as it won’t hurt anybody but invoke us to do the needful to save the country from recurring underdevelopment or secession.

          • Obi Ike Sorres

            It’s a stupid man that fight a man with gun. Live to fight another day. You guys are too diplomatic. Why the cattle rearers have pocketed the country

          • pel boi

            So that is what it is called? Well then could you please tell me sometime in the past and present that the “bravery” of the Igbo has had any positive result in improving the lot of the SE or helping the plight of the average Igbo man….. Chest beating is not bravery.. its tom-foolery! Which is what NK and a lot of online warriors do… The way to go is adept strategy… It is a game of chess.. not noise and saber-rattling

          • Arabakpura

            What you just used is sweet speech and not the hate one! I pity those who could be deceived!

          • okorie

            The deportation saga happened before Kanu. The Oba of Lagos and his threats to drown Igbos was before Kanu. The vigor with which some Yorubas were attacking Ndigbo asking for self determination was unprecedented. Our fight is not with the Yoruba but with Hausa-Fulani, make no mistake about it. But Yorubas uncharacteristically inserted themselves into the project. That did not only anger Kanu, but many Igbos as well.

            The Yorubas do not know that the exit of Ndigbo from Nigeria actually strengthens their hands in that country. Right now Hausa Fulani dominate everything. So what are Yorubas happy about? Nnamdi Kanu has stopped his attack on Yorubas for quite some time. He even withdrew the Church statements. But that’s the problem with the society, every one wants to get a pound of flesh.
            Restructuring has taken the center stage now because of Nnamdi Kanu and the fear of Biafra. The Yoruba is leading that fight right now, but what if the North insists on no restructuring, what is the plan B for the Yoruba?My point here is that we need each other more than ever.

          • remm ieet

            There is nothing like ‘Yoruba Nation’. All you have are individuals who are doing all they can to survive. Those people who held the restructuring meeting at AIT, only happen to speak the same language. They are involved in struggles for their own rewards as individuals. The same people will block any attempt by other Yoruba people to reap the benefit. The real organizing medium of comfort for all Nigerians is the State. Unfortunately, the Nigerian State fell victim of Nigerians. That is why politics is a do or die affair in the first place. It is the same everywhere you go in the country, up in the north and in the south.

          • KWOY

            THEY ARE USING ‘HATE SPEECH’ (which they use their media to do more than anybody else- read Jide Oluwajuyitan, Sam Omatseye & co in Thenation!) TO FIGHT BIAFRA CAUSE. If hate speech is their problem, then let them allow a referendum

          • William Norris

            The struggle in Nigeria is ethnic or tribal in the sense that the TRIBES as a collective entities are trying to SURVIVE the destruction inflicted on them by 2 actors –

            (1) British colonialism, which has ROBBED the tribes of their WEALTH & INDPENDENCE and formalized the Colonial Condition via law & cultural change.

            (2) Individual Nigerians AND families, possibly 99.999% of the population, who have decided to COLLABORATE with the British project in order to get some INDIVIDUAL or FAMILY reward.

            As I’ve repeatedly stated, the widespread adoption of non-African religions is part of the INDIVIDUAL/FAMILY EFFORTS to identify with the Colonial project and destroy the TRIBE.

            THE PEOPLE of Nigeria have CHOSEN to collaborate with the British, with the HOPE that they will be FAVORED and rewarded with some of their own WEALTH which was stolen by those same British.

            The Native Tribes of the Niger area and the Continent at large have illustrated this same mindset in the past with the Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Sahara or Arabic Slave Trades. The tribes of the Niger Area readily SELL OUT their own kind in order to SAVE THEMSELVES and it continues TODAY. It’s part of their CULTURAL CHARACTER RESPONSE to contact with superior cultures. They DECIDED back then and NOW to surrender AND settle for whatever crumbs & scraps they can get.

            A REAL STRUGGLE for freedom and wealth recovery can’t be successful when the people have been IDEOLOGICALLY COMPROMISED. In a country like Vietnam that won its freedom, it degenerated into a War between

            (i.) Vietnamese people who converted to Christianity, such people were very EDUCATED and had government jobs under the colonial government
            AND
            (ii) Vietnamese people who rejected Christianity and insisted on their own culture.

            Each situation is unique, but this is generally the case in Ecuador, Nicaragua, Zimbabwe, Iran, NK…..in such places, the people OR government decide to

            (a) TAKE THEIR PROPERTY BACK or (2) Reject foreign religion.

            The problem in Nigeria is that BOTH the government AND people have DECIDED to collaborate in the Colonial project for reasons cited in (2) and have thus taken NO ACTION with regard to either RELIGION/IDEOLOGY or PROPERTY RECOVERY. You can go to my FIRST comment on this story and see the GENERAL MECHANICS of their collaboration.

            Last week this same Segun Adeniyi wrote something about “How Nigeria had given me so much”.

            Properly translated, it really means – “The British have given me so much in return for rejecting the religion of my people and collaborating with the Colonial Project to destroy my tribe”.

            I’ve tried to simplify this TRUTH as much as possible. THERE ARE NO INNOCENTS in the Nigerian Crisis, no tribe or family can deny what drives them in the CURRENT FRAMEWORK.

            You’ve got to admit…the Anglo-Saxons found a people perfectly suited to the Colonial Prison they created in Nigeria.

          • KWOY

            THEY ARE USING ‘HATE SPEECH’ (which they use their media to do more than anybody else- read Jide Oluwajuyitan, Sam Omatseye & co in Thenation!) TO FIGHT BIAFRA CAUSE. If hate speech is their problem, then let them allow us a referendum!

          • ladi9lives

            ure in too deep in this gross lack of trust of other tribes.Now Campaign against Biafra is not championed by the north ,it is now Yoruba.A lot of responsibility needs to be taken and deep introspection to what you do to make people support u

        • Iskacountryman

          what does the eboe want to get up to?

      • kalu9909

        Your response to the William Norris is unacceptable. Mr. Norris has made a very salient points that you should try to think over and over in order to to proffer solutions. Who are the COLONIAL MANAGERS? How are the WARDENS that causes confusion among the inmates? Who are the FAVOURED PRISONERS, who are in the habit of dehumanizing orders in order to be in the good book of the WARDENS? Are Nigerians truly in PRISON, and who put us inside the prison?

      • ladi9lives

        Even after you read through Segun Adeniyi’s piece and the place of antagonising other ethnic tribes puts you at a disadvantage at a table where collaboration gives advantage to champion a people’s cause you still make such baseless remarks.I will tell you for free that no other ethnic group has as much inter ethnic marriage in the south west like Igbo-Yoruba.If there is an opposition by any ethnic group to the rise of the igbo, it is perhaps because people who make such remarks like you just did dont play well with others.At every point other ethnic group will always think- how does it advance my cause to support this person?when all that is spewed is antagonism, there is apprehension and other options are chosen.This is as much true in Nigeria as is in life in genereal

    • KWOY

      THEY ARE USING ‘HATE SPEECH’ (which they use their media to do more than anybody else- read Jide Oluwajuyitan, Sam Omatseye & co in Thenation!) TO FIGHT BIAFRA CAUSE. If hate speech is their problem, then let them allow a referendum!

      • William Norris

        If a referendum is held today, you can be sure –

        (1) Majority of Igbo will vote to remain in a United Nigeria. I’m sure you can see this yourself, there’s no explicit support for secession or even autonomy from the middle classes and intelligensia of the Igbo tribe. This applies to EVERY OTHER tribe as well.

        I’ve outlined the reasons for this in my comments here.

        (2) Even if Biafra is achieved, either as Igbo alone OR with the Niger Delta tribes included, it’s my opinion that the country will be a smaller version of Nigeria.

        (3) More realistic is this – neither Biafra nor autonomy is a possibility in your lifetime. I hope this newspaper will be around in 25 or 50 years and that we’re alive to compare notes.

        The Igbo, Yoruba, Tiv, various Niger Delta tribes and even the Fulani have all had viable chances to either leave or restructure Nigeria, but the vast majorities of each tribe CHOSE to collaborate with the Colonial Project in the hopes of getting some individual reward for capitulation.

        I suspect the current agitation in Igboland is along the same lines. We can already see how the Ijaw quest for self determination has been tamped down and degenerated over the last 2 to 3 years.

        It’s not just the Igbo. It’s a Black African thing. These are a race who sold their own kind into slavery to strange men who came from afar. You should peruse the history of Liberia & Sierra Leone and maybe you’ll get some of what I’m trying to put down here.

        The Black African is DONE, sorry. I mean, Darwinism isn’t just a theory you know. Have you ever sprayed a cockroach with insecticide and watch it die? The thrashing about, the jerks and desperation to live even as its existence is assured to end? That’s the state of the Black African right now. It’s over. No people ever abandoned their own gods and lived happily ever after.

        • KWOY

          I DID NOT SAY MAJORITY OF IGBOS WOULD BACK INDEPENDENCE. BUT LET IT BE ALLOWED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DETERMINE!

        • Michael Kadiri SocioPolitical

          No people ever abandoned their own gods and lived happily ever after!!

          Could not agree with you more

          And it is this suspension of one’s own essence in the pursuit of that opium of the masses – religion – that plays a continuing part in our comatose.

          • FrNinja

            Dont buy the BS that Norris is selling. He is abusing you and slapping your head down with one hand and feeding you shite with the other. Why is he not concerned that Europeans abandoned their own gods over a thousand years ago to follow a monotheistic God from the Middle East?

        • FrNinja

          William Norris I was waiting for more of your standard monkey theories. Well understand this. The Black African population is adding 20 million people to the human species every single year. If thats “done” then your brain development is slower than I thought.

          About the rest of your drivel. The Igbos are the only group in Nigeria with the cultural structure (maybe not the political sense) to get out of the Nigerian disaster. Give them a referendum and they will vote to get out. They are as republican as you get. The rest of Nigerians are still being misled in their patriotism by loyalty to thieving elites whether Yoruba, Hausa or those from the oil-rich Nigerian Delta.

          • newvoice404

            I wonder, if Igbos were so ‘culturally structured’ to achieve ‘feats upon feats’, then, why are they still asking to be ‘dashed’ referendum by Nigeria? Referendum is meant to be taken/won and not ‘dashed out’, through a concerted political and strategic effort of the majority(Igbos) that is democratic and peaceful. Stop deceiving yourself as an Igbo man, you are , igbos are still lagging so far behind in things that could be termed ordinary- despite their chest- beating as they say in Nigeria parlance. Shame.

        • IKEMBA

          “The Black African is DONE….No People Ever Abandoned Their Own Gods And Lived Happily Ever After.”

          Now that’s one of the deepest statements I’ve read in this Forum…!

          Our ancestors had their ways to the gods even 4 thousands years before the birth of Abram – the Father of Judeo-Christian & Islamic religion in today’s Iraq.

          What you have today – [The 3 major religions], is the copying and refactoring of what was contained in the writings of our generations past scatterd across the pyramids along the Nile. Although, most of these scriptings were destroyed to further their cause of Absolute Control, few writings are there to tell the whole story.

          INDEED…. No People Ever Abandoned Their Own Gods And Lived Happily Ever After.”

          Thank you @Norris for the Enlightenment.

    • KWOY

      THEY ARE USING ‘HATE SPEECH’ (which they use their media to do more than anybody else- read Jide Oluwajuyitan, Sam Omatseye & co in Thenation!) TO FIGHT BIAFRA CAUSE. If hate speech is their problem, let then them allow a referendum!

    • Ojo tope

      You are among the few thinking Nigerian. Too many or majorities are just victims of what you described above.